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26 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:46 pm

next up SOXL (superconductors 3x bull).

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27 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:04 pm

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2005 $           2.10
UWTI4 $                  1.28 6,250
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                69.61 15
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $                21.55 47
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                24.12 42
RUSL1 $                16.59 61
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $                39.39 26

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28 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:37 pm

Approximately $25K worth of purchases right now.

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29 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:09 am

Updates.  No buys or sells today so far.  Keeping an eye on CURE, NUGT, USLV buy targets, but unlikely unless huge moves.  Still haven't finished adding SOXL - looking like a nice safe consistent one though. 

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2005 $           2.10
UWTI4 $                  1.28 6,250
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                69.61 15
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $                23.46 43
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                24.12 42
RUSL1 $                16.59 61
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $                39.39 26

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30 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:19 am

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2005 $           2.10
UWTI4 $                  1.28 6,250
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                72.63 14
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $                23.88 42
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                24.12 42
RUSL1 $                16.59 61
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $              39.39 26 $         43.33
CURE 224-Jul-2015 $                35.01 58

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31 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:31 am

Finally, added SOXL.

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE  CYCLICAL HIGH 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599 $                2.39
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2005 $           2.10
UWTI4 $                  1.28 6,250 $                4.28
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209 $                6.86
DWTI1 $                74.70 14 $            124.50
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654 $              14.19
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331 $              24.21
DUST1 $                23.88 42 $              39.80
TNA1 $                69.30 15 $              99.00
RUSS1 $                25.26 40 $              42.10
RUSL1 $                16.59 61 $              27.65
YINN 1 $                24.42 41 $              34.89
YANG1 $                74.27 14 $            106.10
CURE1 $              39.39 26 $         43.33
CURE 224-Jul-2015 $                35.01 58 $              43.77
SOXL1 $              33.97 3026-Jun-2015
SOXL2 $              29.72 687-Jul-2015
SOXL3 $              25.45 15827-Jul-2015 $         30.35
SOXL4 $                21.23 377 $              42.46

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32 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:47 am

Maybe India next as an addition.  I guess I'll keep adding stuff until I run out of ETN's/ETF's to add, and then work on refinements.  I may actually go ahead and add JNUG as well since I do see some differences with NUGT.

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33 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:47 pm

Added INDL (doesn't hit that often - may revise criteria later to make it hit more often - I have a few like this that I'll tweak to be less conservative once I hit all the ETN's with decent volume that are volatile enough to be useful):

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2005 $           2.10
UWTI4 $                  1.28 6,250
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                75.67 14
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $                23.89 42
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                25.41 40
RUSL1 $                16.59 61
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $              39.39 2624-Jul-2015 $         43.33
CURE 2 $                35.01 58
SOXL1 $              33.97 3026-Jun-2015
SOXL2 $              29.72 687-Jul-2015
SOXL3 $              25.45 15827-Jul-2015 $         30.35
SOXL4 $                21.23 377
INDL1 $                15.40 65

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34 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:02 pm

Phew, so now we have:

Natural Gas 3x Bull
Natural Gas 3x Bear
Crude Oil 3x Bull
Crude Oil 3x Bear
Gold Miners 3x Bull
Gold Miners 3x Bear
Silver 3x Bull
Small Caps 3x Bull
Russia 3x Bull
Russia 3x Bear
China 3x Bull
China 3x Bear
Health 3x Bull
Semiconductors 3x Bull
India 3x Bull

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35 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:25 pm

Really liking how the new guys SOXL and CURE are working out.  Although the system has SOXL buys at 33.97, 29.72, and 25.45, since I didn't add the system until the prices were already on the 3rd position, I bought all 3 positions at $25.45 (30+68+158 = 256 shares).  Heading north of 7% gains since purchase yesterday - up close to $500.  CURE just looks like a really good cycler, and up over 4-1/2% in a couple of days (+$45 only with single 1st position).  CURE appears to be a consistent repeatable $50 a week on low investment.  Gas money anyways (or at these oil prices, gas + coffee).

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36 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:33 pm

I know I'm kind of combining this with the discussion page lately, but nobody is probably reading any of this anyways, haha!  Just a personal journal these days. 

Anyways, today is a good day for this system.  Talk about blastoff for the current holdings!  SOXL +8.1% CURE +4.8% UWTI +7% NUGT +5% USLV +2.5%

Over in Stocktwits, I had a few people ask me how my tables are generated.  Here is the basic info. 

1a.  I start with the historical prices for a fund since inception. 
1b.  I start at day 1 of inception and calculate 0.7 x the daily high. 
1c.  Then I go to day 2 and calculate the maximum of 0.7 x the daily high for (days 1 and 2). 
1d... Then same thing but days 1, 2, 3... and so on. 

2.  The first buy occurs when the daily low is at or  below this  calculated value. 
3.  The 2nd buy occurs when this daily low is below 0.6 x the same maximum daily high used in step 1 above.
4.  The 3rd buy occurs when same thing but 0.5x

5.  All buys are double the dollars of the previous buys.
6.  Average cost is tracked across all buys
7.  Sells are set at 10% gains over the average cost.

8.  If after evaluating the historical date, too much money is needed to make the required buys, then I start again calculating from step 1b at 0.6 x the daily high and step 2 uses this for the first buy (etc, then 0.5x, etc).

9.  If after evaluating the historical data that not enough buys actually occur, then I start again at step 1b, starting with 0.8x the daily high (etc, then 0.9x, then 1x)

Probably sounds super confusing, but easily done in a spreadsheet.  Works for any cyclical volatile investment, not just 3x.

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37 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:59 pm

Potential idea to test for improvment of the system will be to try the following instead of straight 10% moves (although these 10% moves are more simplistic - and sometimes simplicity is more important than optimization):

1.  Download the historical data for a stock or etf/etn with decent volume.
2.  create a column and calculate the 180 day standard deviation
3.  buy $1000 worth, when stock drops a standard deviation below the last cyclical maximum price.
4.  buy $2000 worth when stock drops another standard deviation, rinse and repeat $4000, $8000, etc.
5.  Sell all when stock rises 1 standard deviation above your average cost.  

I'll keep what I am doing for now for this system, but this may help in the future. Just ideas.

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38 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:29 pm

An example of this is SOXL results in a $1000 buy on 3/25/2015 for $33.33 per share and a sell of $37.84 for 13.5% profit on 5/26/2015.  I tried to post the table, and it says the table is too long to post, but any questions, let me know.

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39 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:56 am

New buy/sell targets - CURE above sell target in premarket.:

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2015 $           2.10
UWTI4 $                  1.28 6,250
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                76.66 14
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $                23.89 42
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                25.56 40
RUSL1 $                16.59 61
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $              39.39 2624-Jul-2015 $         43.33
CURE 2 $                35.01 58
SOXL1 $              33.97 3026-Jun-2015
SOXL2 $              29.72 687-Jul-2015
SOXL3 $              25.45 15827-Jul-2015 $         30.35
SOXL4 $                21.23 377
INDL1 $                15.40 65

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40 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:48 pm

Finally starting to turn the corner, here are the updates.  Personally, I cycled SOXL twice since I didn't start the buys 25.50ish.  Total realized gain $800.  I only did that though since when I added SOXL to the system while it was already in the middle of a cycle, so I bought all my shares at the lower price, where the goal is $700 profit from when 3 positions are taken in one security.  But that said, officially, the system did not sell yet.  I may regret that decision if it goes up to the sell target.

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67599
UWTI1 $                2.523976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.149357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.712,34023-Jul-2015
UWTI4 $                1.286,2506-Aug-2015 $           1.53
UWTI5 $                  0.8518,824
DGAZ1 $                  4.80209
DWTI1 $                93.4811
NUGT1 $                8.5211829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.102827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.6870517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.261,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.835,654
USLV1 $              16.8060
USLV2 $              14.53138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10331
DUST1 $                24.0042
TNA1 $                69.3015
RUSS1 $                25.5940
RUSL1 $                16.5961
YINN 1 $                24.4241
YANG1 $                74.2714
CURE1 $              39.03267-Aug-2015 $         42.94
CURE2 $                34.7058
SOXL1 $              33.973026-Jun-2015
SOXL2 $              29.72687-Jul-2015
SOXL3 $              25.4515827-Jul-2015 $         30.35
SOXL4 $                21.23377
INDL1 $                15.4065

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41 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:26 pm

New targets.  Personally, I rebought all 256 SOXL shares once again at 25.45 that I sold yesterday (note that this is not an official system trade, just something I did - the system still stands on its own).

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2015
UWTI4 $                1.28 6,2506-Aug-2015 $           1.53
UWTI5 $                  0.85 18,824
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                96.65 11
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $                24.00 42
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                25.59 40
RUSL1 $                16.59 61
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $              39.03 267-Aug-2015 $         42.94
CURE2 $                34.70 58
SOXL1 $              33.97 3026-Jun-2015
SOXL2 $              29.72 687-Jul-2015
SOXL3 $              25.45 15827-Jul-2015 $         30.35
SOXL4 $                21.23 377
INDL1 $                15.40 65

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42 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:56 am

TICKERPOSITION BOUGHT PRICE SHARES OWNEDBOUGHT DATE BUY PRICE SHARES SELL PRICE 
UGAZ1 $                  1.67 599
UWTI1 $                2.52 3976-Jul-2015
UWTI2 $                2.14 9357-Jul-2015
UWTI3 $                1.71 2,34023-Jul-2015
UWTI4 $                1.28 6,2506-Aug-2015 $           1.67
UWTI5 $                  0.85 18,824
DGAZ1 $                  4.80 209
DWTI1 $                98.79 11
NUGT1 $                8.52 11829-Jun-2015
NUGT2 $                7.10 2827-Jul-2015
NUGT3 $                5.68 70517-Jul-2015
NUGT4 $                4.26 1,88020-Jul-2015 $           5.54
NUGT5 $                  2.83 5,654
USLV1 $              16.80 60
USLV2 $              14.53 138 $         16.74
USLV3 $                12.10 331
DUST1 $              24.00 4212-Aug-2015 $         26.40
DUST 2 $                20.00 100
TNA1 $                69.30 15
RUSS1 $                25.59 40
RUSL1 $              16.59 6113-Aug-2015 $         18.25
RUSL2 $                13.82 145
YINN 1 $                24.42 41
YANG1 $                74.27 14
CURE1 $              39.03 267-Aug-2015 $         42.94
CURE2 $                34.70 58
SOXL1 $              33.97 3026-Jun-2015
SOXL2 $              29.72 687-Jul-2015
SOXL3 $              25.45 15827-Jul-2015 $         30.35
SOXL4 $                21.23 377
INDL1 $                15.40 65

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43 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:35 pm

Happy with this system so far, but admittedly, it is slow and requires a lot of money.  I have some improvements to the plan for future cycles that will require less money and will harvest gains more frequently.  Current cycles will stay as is until they sell.  Note that this will still not be a day trading system.  If you want something that fast, you have come to the wrong place.  Also note that this is not a complete rehaul of this system, but it just adds an additional feature to this system.

Here are the improvements:

1.  The system will contain targets just like now, but will also contain a shorter term cycling strategy to harvest smaller gains over and over again.

2.  Initial buys will be $500.  With $5 commisions, this results in $40 a pop profits from these buys.  Small potatoes, but profits are profits.  

3.  2nd buys will be $1000.  At this point, you will still have $500 invested from step 1, so you will now have $1,500 invested.  $500 of this investment will be available for shorter term targets.  $1,000 of this investment will be for the longer term targets.  The $500 can be cycled over and over, resulting re-occuring $40 profits, which will add up.

4.  3rd buy will be $2000, At this point, you will still have $1,500 invested from step 2, $1,000 used for shorter term target. This $1000 will be cycled over and over for $90 profit a pop after commissions, which will add up.

5.  ...and so on. $4,000 purchase/$2,000 to cycle for $190 a pop, $8,000 purchase/$4,000 to cycle for $390 a pop...

Just watch for the new tables at the next cycle to see these improvement in action. This will make the long term targets higher, but will improve gains overall.  

Will also add more funds and even regular stocks to the system as well and with the added goal of making a quick and dirty calculation for adding funds/stocks to the system versus extensive backtesting.

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44 Re: 3x Double Down Trading System on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:38 am

Just for info, I will be transitioning my trading systems over to here: 

http://tradingsystems.freeforums.net

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